I'm Making This Final

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BStyles:

*DO NOT SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM WHERE THE IMAGES ARE. OPEN YOUR EYES AND READ.*

The site's reputation has gone downhill, as you may have noticed. It's not just because of the illegal modifications and the way the administration runs things, because if you followed the rules for once there wouldn't be a problem. No, this is about the quality of content on this site. And I believe that plays a key role in the site's reputation then and now. Back in the day I could get a good route and there would be tons of replies from it because of it's splendor, especially when the G came out. But now, even though we're slowly starting to move into the 5th Generation(site wise and content-wise), some developers don't understand the basic principle of developing: You need to pour your heart and soul into your content.

This is where I draw the line, because I am so sick and tired of seeing the new members develop bullshit. Yes I said it, BULLSHIT. Your content's quality is poor, your effort is slim, and yet you think it looks amazing. Well I don't, and i'm going to point out what does.

Let me give you a list of content that is unsatisfactory on this site and i'm going to explain why:

Dumb4Life's content:
MBTA Blue Line Train:



The train is 100% inaccurate regardless of how many times you update it, and said author claimed to have put effort into it even after he was told it was unsatisfactory. Question: If you do not live in Boston, why are you trying to create unsatisfactory content? If I were you, I would end the project until you can get some liable info other than NYCSubway.

R68 Exterior:
Not enough effort. Seats are too small, and it looks like a living room instead of a train. Let me ask you something. Does this look like a joke to you? Have you seen the Class 323, and you can stand there with a straight face and call it 'effort'? Don't you dare tell me that you're trying, because on my first exterior, which was the R62, I didn't even know what the hell I was doing, and I gave it 110%. Look how it turned out.

R175 and R176: Seriously, did you draw this up in Paint or something? You could have easily went out and took a picture of an R160 and modified it to any way you wanted. This is why I do not make fictional trains, because it's harder and it takes more time to map out textures. Please, just end the project and focus on the R68.

Bkzdeadliest's content:
R142/A:
Listen, I know you're trying...but stop. Sorry to say, but your exteriors are no match for the ones under developent, especially the ones above, which is a bad thing. An exterior, in my opinion, is better retrofitted with an interior. What you're doing we can do in a matter of seconds. If you'e going to make an exterior, you might as well make an interior. But seeing as all you're doing is the R142/A, i'm telling you now. THEY ARE ALREADY IN DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS NO NEED FOR TWO.

R68 Exterior:

The sides are jutting out. Did you notice that, or was it up to us to notice that on release?

I quite distinctly remember there being only one rollsign on each side. Also, what's going on with the textures on the interior seats, or do you know how to fix that? See, this is why I have to ask if you know what you're doing.
You used textures from both the R46 and the R160, copied the coding and pasted it as an interior of the R68. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Everything in that train is inaccurate. Why didn't you just make the train from scratch?!

Koey9's content:
Probably banned, anyway.

This goes for Trains on this site as well. There are a handful of them that excel, but there are a ton that are unsatisfactory, or just to say it in simpler terms: It looks like shit.

Qnzshinez777:

R36 Redbird Panel

First off, why are there so many replications on this panel image? Why is everything skewered? And finally, why would you place copyright on a panel that you put together in two fucking minutes and the pictures do not belong to you anyway? What you SHOULD be doing is crediting the original source of the image, which I noticed that you did, and try asking for help from some of our elite members, because your panel looks like shit. You can get mad all you want, but it's better than masking it with lies "OOH  IT'S GREAT" and "OMG IT'S AWESOME". A lot of members do that when they know damn well they don't mean it.

Allyn65 or Allynbaldwin, whatever:

How dare you modify my group's R62 and post it on YouTube? Is there a problem with something? Why didn't you PM me and ask me for some advice like i'm asking the developers above to adhere to now? It's still a fucking BETA, what part of that didn't you understand? IT IS NOT FINISHED.

Koey9, and a few other members I've seen all go on this list. That's another thing I don't get with you guys. Your modifications look and sound like shit. All you did was ruin our work. Unless we approve the modifications and you show it to US first, IT IS ILLEGAL and is a degradation of our content, and our 3rd-Party sources. Look what happened with Trevor Logan. His content was fine, so why would you modify it? You don't get it, do you? You're not a real developer unless you MAKE SOMETHING OF YOUR OWN from the New Folder up, Christ! If you don't know, why can't you just ask?! There are tons of tutorials here.

It's not going to end with this post of course. You have your pride. You'll still modify our content because "we can't stop you". We can't, but you're no better than us if you do. Think about it. You should be happy we did this shit for you, because I can guarantee that if BVEStation wasn't here, you'd sitting at home running all of the first generation routes from http://www.b-v-e.info. We don't cater to you.

Now here are the pictures of the content. I have consulted with the staff on this, and they have expressed their opinions. Not only that, There are actual T/O's and supervisors of the MTA here who feel the same way. That's embarrassing, and you know it. Look, your content is supposed to get more and more exciting with every picture. It's not supposed to start with a big ass proposal and then level off in the middle, which basically means that you haven't fulfilled that people were yearning for. Now let me show you images of the interiors that are, and were in development from other members who did a good job in my opinion:

Trainspot12's exteriors/interiors, which are available on Trevor Day BVE World. Even fictional, adjustments are right where they need to be, and not flaunty, and trying to impress people; they exceed standards.

JayJay85's interiors of the R160 and R46.



DJ Hammers' rendition of the R38's panel. Very realistic, and I had a great time running it.


And some of mine and the teams':




Make this the last time I should have to point this out to you. It's ridiculous. If your interiors cannot look like ours, or even as far as mentioning the Class 323, then why try? WE HAVE TO MOVE AHEAD.

BStyles

Dj Hammers:

Very very true! You hit the nail right on the head BStyles! I find it disgusting that many people here have the audacity to post the crap they post here, saying it is good.

Im sorry, but we make all of this BVE content FOR FREE. And yet many fucktards decide to shit all over it and modify it, no matter how many times they are told not to.
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Not only that, but i caught Bkzdeadliest lying on another site, saying he made the R160 exterior at http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=64: (Scroll All the Way Down)


Now, we are in no way at all asking any of those mentioned to stop developing for BVE. But frankly, your current work is SHIT and you need to step it up.

And to you people who are modifying trains without permission:
Do you REALIZE what HELL you are causing? One of our most valued members (name undisclosed) has threatened to leave (and probably has left already) because of all the copyright infringement going on. Do you realize you are ruining something hundreds of people love? You people are scaring away developers and members!

joseto:

I totally agree with you Styles... people should take their time to do an amazing job like in the R62A and JayJay's R46 which are extremely realistic...

2Line1291:

 :'( :'( :'( "happy tears" It's like you took the exact words out my mind. This should be mailed to everyone in BVEStation as a newsletter and/or posted as a sticky thread.

tvega961:

i totally agree Styles. People just come in here thinking that their work is better than yours. They put NO effort and think that their work will be done in a Month or even days WHILE it takes almost YEARS to create. People need to stop what they are doing and LEARN how to make MORE REALISTIC bve content.

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